MYSQL Counting the number of records that are associated

Suppose I have a cat table and a catherder table with a one catherder to many 开发者_StackOverflow社区cats relationship. How would I write a query that along with typical attributes like color of hat, height, etc, I could have a count of how many cats each herder has where each cat herder is one record?

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SELECT catherder.*, count(cat.id) AS cats_count
FROM catherder join cat
     on catherder.id = cat.catherder_id

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This should do the trick (not tested)

SELECT color,height,COUNT(cat.id) AS cats FROM 
cats RIGHT JOIN catherder ON cats.id = catherder.id GROUP BY catherder.id;